Maratis forum - Engine not starting

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (sunnystormy) — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:43:43 +0000

Thanks for sharing your specs, Jillinger3Dee!

It looks like you have a computer that's roughly 3 years old, and it contains the first generation of HD graphics that Intel ever made! Since the HD Graphics chipset inside your card only supports OpenGL 2.1, that may be what's causing the problem.

If you're going to get more serious about 3D game development, I think purchasing a new machine will end up being your first priority. Regardless of whether or not you choose to use Maratis (or any other game engine for that matter), a newer, better rig will really make a big difference.

As I've linked in my blog, there are some decent laptops that you can get for under $400. At that point, the hardware all becomes relative.

If you need any further assistance, please let us know!

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (Akira_san) — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:43:28 +0000

Jillinger3dee, try this version and see if its gonna run? link -> http://neo-engine.de/
Its a modified version of Maratis.

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (Jillinger3dee) — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 03:00:32 +0000

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (Akira_san) — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 00:32:18 +0000

You could even try the modified version of Maratis.

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (sunnystormy) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 23:18:32 +0000

You're going to find less responsiveness from the JMonkey community. In fact, that's what drove me to using Maratis in the first place!

If it's just a computer issue, then using JMonkey won't make any difference because of the fact that it runs on top of LWJGL/JOGL, which means that it's still trying to tap into your graphics processor.

I have a blog that I run where I've linked some cheap new laptops with great integrated GPUs. You can find it here: "http://osgdp.wordpress.com".

In the meantime, would you mind providing your computer's system specifications so that we can help troubleshoot the hardware problem? This could turn out to be a simple fix if we just had a little more information.

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (Jillinger3dee) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 22:39:52 +0000

Yes, I'm using a laptop, and no, I don't see 'Run With Graphics Processor'. So I guess that means 'my device is useless' in this case. Your advice however, was rather useful, since I thought my graphics card was a good one. Now I am learning otherwise. That's useful knowledge for future, since I'll be pushing in the direction of serious 3d graphics. Thanks.
Sorry I have to leave Maratis though. I was considering these three engines that looked promising - jmonkeyengine, gameplay3d, and maratis. Gameplay3d tried to deliver me a backdoor trojan, which now has me a bit wary of it. Maratis isn't running on my system, so that leaves me jmonkeyengine. I hope it doesn't fail me.
Thanks for all your help. This is the first forum I've spent so short a time, but the first with the most helpful and quick responses. Keep up the good work.

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (cygorx) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 18:11:05 +0000

http://imgur.com/QKpUgFM
Your graphics processing unit is just a fancy term for your graphics card. If you did not have one, you would have no display on your computer. As i am assuming this is not the case, if you are on a laptop it may be an integrated GPU. Meaning my advice is useless. However, if you have a dedicated graphics card then you should see something like this when you right click on maratis

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (Jillinger3dee) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:26:11 +0000

Oh, and all my drivers are updated.

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (Jillinger3dee) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:21:23 +0000

Installed vcredist. Run Maratis. Crashed.
Thanks though.

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (Jillinger3dee) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:15:40 +0000

No error message before crash.
I already have the Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package installed, but I'll reinstall it. Any help is worth a try. I'll let you know in a moment.

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (anael) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:10:04 +0000

Hi Jillinger3dee,
do you get any error message before the crash ?
is it running on the computer used to build ?

Try this :

- install visual c++ 2008 redistributable :
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download … aspx?id=29
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download … x?id=15336

- update your 3d drivers

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (Jillinger3dee) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:07:40 +0000

I did some research. GPU - graphics processing unit. This is the first time I am hearing of it. However, that spells money. Even though Maratis looks good, I wouldn't want to spend money on it just for its looks. I have used many free engines, and ended up switching to another because of limitations or bugs. If I can't get Maratis working without spending money, then I think it would be better to try something else.
Thanks for all your replies. This is a great forum. I've been on forums where getting just one reply was like pulling teeth. Keep it up.
I'm being forced to update to windows 8.1. Maybe that might solve the issue - I hope.
Otherwise ...

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (Jillinger3dee) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 04:48:57 +0000

Ah yes Vegas. I found the files here \MaratisSVN\trunk\dev\prod\win32_i386\release\Maratis\Bin\MaratisEditor.exe also, but it still crashes. Thanks
Cygorx, I ran it as administrator, and it still crashes. How do I run it with the GPU (don't understand GPU)?

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (cygorx) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 03:59:06 +0000

Try running it with the GPU if possible, my Maratis only works when i run it with my Nvidia graphics card, otherwise it just crashes. Also, make sure you try to run as administrator.

Re: Engine not starting

dummy@example.com (Vegas) — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 03:16:39 +0000

My bad sorry, i thought it was already compiled

Jillinger3dee wrote:

I had successfully followed the steps here http://wiki.maratis3d.org/index.php?tit … or_Windows
The thing is, I did not know what steps to take next, or how to run the program using this method.

On my side, after running scons.py, the editor is located here :
\MaratisSVN\trunk\dev\prod\win32_i386\release\Maratis\Bin\MaratisEditor.exe

Hope it help, unfortunately i know nearly nothing about compiling,
so if there's still a problem you better wait for anael advice