I saved out a OBJ and tried the import 3d model in Maratis, but nothing at all came in , though maratis clearly took several seconds to think about it. Still a blank project.

OK I tried again this morning having better luck, maybe memory was fragmented I 've no idea, but its at least bringing the item into maratis BUT with n o te xture, so does anyone have a clue how to get multiple textured items out of any modeler, and into maratis ???

Anyone have any idea how to get textured items into blender from sculptris ? Shouldn't the exported OBJ contain it or do you need to specifically save out the map in same directory ?

HM I never thought about     skethcup, so Ill give that a try, but I wasnt' aware it allowed you to paint with multiple textures on one object or does it ? < Ill try and see>

Ya I'd forgotten about sculptris as I've been primarily using  it for modeling , and when I try texturing with it, the textures wind up looking dull and washed out so clearly I need to fiddle with some settings, so I"ll give that a go. EDIT: Ok ya, clearly when I tried it initialy I had used 512 for size,,trying at the very least 2048 seems to make a big differnence, imagine that;)

thx for verification about blender, as it seems somebody that knows a lot more of how an what it does will need to help us on this issue. Frankly I really think I prefer sculptris, so I'll try it along with skethcup ( though for awesome features you really need PRO version, but meh). Actually now that I see the website, not even a non profit organization as I have, can use sketchup make for profit of anykind, so that's out of the question now Even a non profit is allowed to make some profit , as long as its under the norm.

Cheers
hs

Oh, skethup doesn't allow you to paint textures. But the applied textures get in okay. Sculptris is best for paintng.

Ya I'd forgotten about sculptris as I've been primarily using  it for modeling , and when I try texturing with it, the textures wind up looking dull and washed out so clearly I need to fiddle with some settings, so I"ll give that a go. EDIT: Ok ya, clearly when I tried it initialy I had used 512 for size,,trying at the very least 2048 seems to make a big differnence, imagine that;)

thx for verification about blender, as it seems somebody that knows a lot more of how an what it does will need to help us on this issue. Frankly I really think I prefer sculptris, so I'll try it along with skethcup ( though for awesome features you really need PRO version, but meh). Actually now that I see the website, not even a non profit organization as I have, can use sketchup make for profit of anykind, so that's out of the question now Even a non profit is allowed to make some profit , as long as its under the norm.

Cheers
hs

I'm still having no luck getting what I texture paint inside Maratis from blender or any other modeler. I know this is a OLD thread but its certainly applicable still.

I saw Anael's page about multiple materials, but that is of very little help, because materials alone give no depth whatsoever ( short of VERY simple visuals/games), so for decent professional work you need texture painting , but maybe the way Im doing it wont come into maratis from its exporter.

I cant get the object and its texture inside maratis, but instead of a lot of grass on one EDGE of terrain model and sand everywhere else, its like sand is mostly everywhere, and grass only in small bits    in a few places, and this is definitely not how it looks inside blender, yet blender render shows it closer to how it shows up inside maratis.Very confusing.

I wish zester had been more specific about how he did the splatting texture work, but given what Im doing so far isn't working as far as getting it to look right inside maratis, I wonder if zester was just using stencil maps inbetween his textures, where atm IM not doing that as I just load the textures and start painting with 'texture painting' panel.

Ive been Very busy making models so Im left texturing for another day, but that is coming very soon , so I wanted to get back into it. I guess I'll have a look at the Tutorials on wiki, but I also felt that if someone came here first and saw this they might be a bit confused, as 'materials' here that sadwolf used LOOK more like textures than materials.

Thx
hs

I am having materials issues also. Only way I can get them in is an export from sketchup directly to maratis using assimp. Also Scuptris textures work using assimp also. I would like to use blender, but perhaps sculptris is the best way to go so far.

I saw Anael's page about multiple materials, but that is of very little help, because materials alone give no depth whatsoever ( short of VERY simple visuals/games), so for decent professional work you need texture painting , but maybe the way Im doing it wont come into maratis from its exporter.

I cant get the object and its texture inside maratis, but instead of a lot of grass on one EDGE of terrain model and sand everywhere else, its like sand is mostly everywhere, and grass only in small bits    in a few places, and this is definitely not how it looks inside blender, yet blender render shows it closer to how it shows up inside maratis.Very confusing.

I wish zester had been more specific about how he did the splatting texture work, but given what Im doing so far isn't working as far as getting it to look right inside maratis, I wonder if zester was just using stencil maps inbetween his textures, where atm IM not doing that as I just load the textures and start painting with 'texture painting' panel.

Ive been Very busy making models so Im left texturing for another day, but that is coming very soon , so I wanted to get back into it. I guess I'll have a look at the Tutorials on wiki, but I also felt that if someone came here first and saw this they might be a bit confused, as 'materials' here that sadwolf used LOOK more like textures than materials.

Thx
hs

You're right, with a few simple tools you can make something decent

I had no luck getting anything I texture painted inside Maratis, so I look fwd to knowing the way. If you know, what exactly is the difference between just texture painting and this brush method ? I think I recall Anael saying ( or somebody if not him) he wishes they would remove tex. painting as it wasn't a optimal way of doing things,etc.

I used 4 different textures(images to paint with).
1. Dirt
2. Rock
3. Ground Clutter(Grass, Leafs, Twigs, ...)
4. Roots

It wasn't hard and didn't take long to do. You don't need to be an artist. Even if you cant draw a stick
figure you could still do just as good of a job if not better if you spent a bit more time on  it.

I will make a tutorial, might take a day or two because I like to take a pic for every step.

Not following you, and Im not a longtime user /fan of blender, but I'll try here: Were these brushes part of default blender, or did you find them online and add them to brush section, and if so is that a very involved process ?

Not everyone is a longtime blender /modeling user, sometimes we need a tiny bit of hand holding, but that doesn't mean we aren't capable , just new , but very interested If there is a TUT that covers the basic idea of what you did, that would be more than fine too. Just a quick start or such. I have an idea,so I will start on that for now. Anael was thinking you may have used gimp at some point, so if I understand you correctly you did it all in blender,just using brushes and prob. loading in your own textures for them. I say that because your terrain texture near bridge, doesn't look like any brushes I've seen in blender, so maybe you did touch them up in gimp or PS ?

Can you elaborate, on how data from the johnflower site, can add 'detail' to a existing heightmap ?

The data from  johnflower seems to just be heightmaps ( which is the realworld data you refer to) ,so Im confused atm what you mean.

Also,and this isn't entirely fair to ask you ,,,Zester I think is away doing dev work on Ubuntu phone,so could you possibly elaborate on how he made/applied his terrain texture ? It has several  textures which wouldn't be ideal/easy for average person to deal with given faik, it mandates shaders,,did he possibly just texture the terrain inside a paint app and bring that uvmap back in or just update it.

That Rage terrain is pretty cool.

So while I was studying anael's rage terrain screenshot, I was completely stumped I had no clue on how they were generating that surface detail. I tried for days and couldn't get anything remotely comparable. And I knew that they were not modeling every detail by hand and even with shaders and there mega texturing system there was something particular going on in that terrain that I wasn't figuring into the problem.

Then it came to me ........ there using 16bit heightmaps.

Most of us are accustom to using 8bit heightmaps and wouldn't know a 16bit heightmap if it hit us in the face well no one would.
The additional coding in a 16bit heightmap is invisible to not only our eyes but your computer screen.

So I tried it out I loaded a 16bit height map I found online into blender and used a subdivided plane and a displacement modifier, the heightmap I used was of a small (1 square mile) section of New Zealand. At first it just looked like any other boring no detail terrain. Then I remembered what the guy on that johnflower site said about uping the poly count. So I subdivided until I had about
200,000 faces about what that rage terrain probably has. And you know what I started to see!!!!!! Roads, cracks in the earth, lots and lots of surface detail made that rage terrain look like some indie job!!!!

And anaels right my terrain was just a diffuse map painted in blender. Using the differant brushes and setting,s. Nothing special or even hard.

- About the data from real world, I mean it can 'add' some detail because you could multiply these height map (because there are realistic) to another less detailed height map (done for example with photoshop).

- Zester probably just created a big diffuse map that mix all the different textures without any particular shader.
I think he painted the base directly in Blender with a final touch in Gimp or Photoshop.

The water with the bridge looks really good !

There is this terrain test done for the game Rage that I found interesting :

At some point I did a test with Blender and height map to generate a terrain, and I found some reference of real world elevation : http://johnflower.org/tutorial/finding-height-maps-web
This sort of data can be combined with a basic height map to add details.

Can you elaborate, on how data from the johnflower site, can add 'detail' to a existing heightmap ?

The data from  johnflower seems to just be heightmaps ( which is the realworld data you refer to) ,so Im confused atm what you mean.

Also,and this isn't entirely fair to ask you ,,,Zester I think is away doing dev work on Ubuntu phone,so could you possibly elaborate on how he made/applied his terrain texture ? It has several  textures which wouldn't be ideal/easy for average person to deal with given faik, it mandates shaders,,did he possibly just texture the terrain inside a paint app and bring that uvmap back in or just update it.

thx
gm

yeah....gonna need help with the blender import/export stuff, i know i can go to a blender tute site, but I need it in normal english, not linuxspeak. things i know i'm gonna need help with....texture import in blender , importing a model in maratis , how would bones/rigging from a different modeler work in blender?

I can tell/show you in zester speak lol

Cool stuff. I'm working with Wings 3d for my terrains meshes, that way I can control what parts I want to be detailed a bit better. Also, when I'm exporting from my csg modeler, I'm importing it into wings3d and creating a single texture . haven't done anything with maratis from this process yet, But that's coming this weekend.

Thanks and Looking forward to seeing what you come up with Wrapscallion.