Understand Programming (For beginners)

I've had a look at the first pages and I must say you did a very good job; comparing programming with everyday stuff is the best way to make people understand the logic behind it. Bravo!
I know some people who see programming as magic I could give that to read

AS a beginner, you should consider putting your current work under 'showcase' so as to show others who come here ( and they WILL checkout showcase to see what h as been done so far , with this engine) what can be done by someone with next to no programming knowledge.

Thx
hs

It's not just that it is 'easy' to use, a full featured engine must also have features AND docs, are atm sadly, maratis docs are pretty horribly lacking both on the c++ side and lua. Don't ask a non programmer like me ( or fairly yourself, as you won't be able to do so not understanding how to program in c++, and doubtfully lua as even lua takes a long time to be fully 'versed' in how to adequately and professionally use it, but its far easier than c++ at least, in my view anyway) to document the wiki for docs ( not saying you did, but someone else here did) to start this process immediately as it's going to take me a very long time to be able to do that, but as noted elsewhere, Im here as  I admire maratis editor, versus the mostly non existant 3d editor other engines have.

The one huge thing unity has ( at a huge cost though !) that maratis does not, is terrain. Even irrrpg has terrain ( based on tiles), and it makes using it a dream and gets you juices flowing to 'create' something.  Maratis is lacking terrain, and that's a huge issue for many people I'm  quite certain. I have no idea how easy it would be to add terrain, but I"d have no idea, again, as a non  c++ coder. If we had terrain of the geomipmapp variety, I am rather certain you'd see far more people using this engine . That's an assumption but prob. a fairly good one.

We also lack dynamic lighting, which I suppose to some is a detriment as well to the engines adoption, but someone with solid c++ coding skillls could prob. add that easily enough, though atm it's only possible to add one plugin, until NIsturs multiple plugin extention is added to maratis. Tha't s my understanding anyway from discussion on this topic.

So docs aren't enough entirely on their own.  Granted dynamic lighting isn't a must to be certain nor is terrain, but afa unity goes, it explains why the engine is as popular as it is I suspect

I'ts wonderful maratis exists but what it lacks is prob. not helping either, and its going to take a solid c++ coder to add what it is missing at the moment.

At least the editor being as useful as it is helps a great deal in attracting new users, which is how I arrived

Cheers
hs

I"Ts not going to help to socialize in blender, not to any great extent, of that Im sure. I've seen people try to socialize on blender forums only to be met with harsh treatment, and those people know who they are. Sad too, given blender's great feature set FOR FREE, but being treated horribly BY PROMINENT m embers of the community, does NOT make me want to use the software, which is why today, I avoid blender like the plague it is. I am GLAD people use it who can't afford anything else, but I guarantee you, the day I have enough money, Ill be buying 3ds max and be glad of IT It's a true shame I can't use blender b ecause of the harsh community members and how I was treated, but those are facts and how life goes sometimes.  I learned from that harsh treatment, and its a real shame as I wanted to enjoy using it, but thats no longer possible.

You can't  make terrain exported from sketchup WORK in maraits, where did you get that idea from ?
EDIT EDIT EDIT: What I meant by that was that there is no 'terrain' system from skethcup, but of course you can 'make' your own , or even download a piece of google earth, which takes a fair bit of editing etc., and then load into maratis into pieces, but I think that's only with the blender exporter ? ( anael would have to comment on that, as I dont recall)

Yes, you can download terrain from google earth,  bring it into skethcup and all, but getting it ready for maratis is NO easy task, trust me Ive done it. I"ts not a simple task. For those wanting to make terrain themselves maybe there is some skethcup tutorial ( skethcup is my ONLY solace now given blender is totally OFF the table, and thank goodness for that at least I guess, though skethcup makes doing SOME things difficult, because it asks for MONEY for some plugins, which is really shameful, but thats capitalism for you right ?   - ) Maybe I should look for a terrain creation TUTorial in skethcup, but even if I find one, making the terrain performant in maratis is another hassle, given you need to find a way to chop up the mesh before export so that it gets good performance INSIDE maratis, otherwise it won't, unless its as V ERY small terrain.  Unity users have that one solid advantage ? of being able to use HUGE terrain so they wish to, whereas Im not atm sure, maraits could do that wiht its current rendering abilities. I've no doubt maratis was n ever dESIGNED for that, just saying alot of people like huge terrain for the desings it allows them to do, and being able to make subsequent money from said endeavor

ON the teapot, are you sure that's a 'dynanic light' possiblity ? I don't recall reading that anywhere, so where did you get that from, maybe I missed it,,,That would c ertainly add a 'feature' to this engine worthy of NOTE. I doubt its what you think though, because anael has not added 'dynamic lighting' to the feature LIST.

cheers
hs

HI TD,

NO offense meant at all, but your terrain example is very very basic ( not texture splatting , which can be brought in ? I think but its been far too long and I don't how its done. Zester I think did something similar but only in blender, so I have no idea how it would be done in any other app given blender is the only one for which there is a official exporter, and 3dsmax kinda is on teh shelf atm given the person who started it is certainly busy with other things no fault of h is own.He was working on moving entirely to maxscript, but I have  no idea of his progress as in whats left or how hard doing all of it is.

FOR a large terrain, and for the engine to 'cull' parts of it ( occlusion culling works yet, or is planned ? dont' recall====) the engine 'mesh' must be split up into pieces.  You can get away with small meshs I guess and do aLOT of scene loading/portaling, but then I don't know that sorta ruins the immersion process. Dunno, experimentation would need to be done I guess )))

NOthing wrong with experimenting, and I guess once multiple plugins are doable, then maybe even a  LOD GMM'd  &/or streaming terrain plugin would make this engine far more enticing, as if it isn't already )

cheers
hs

Oh btw, those torches are going to come in VERY handy for skydiving@

hahaha

cu
lee
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