My work so far on the Maratis engine

Thanks heartseed the fog is a toggle option on the Maratis Editor for the camera, you need to tweak the fog values of course to make it look like that, yes the flashlight is just s light attached to the camera, but making it turn off and on and even look like a flashlight was not easy for me .

Yes adventure style games is what i like the most, but violence could be part of it i'm afraid, for example my idea was to try and make a game in the style of Amnesia the Dark Descent or even Penumbra.

And thanks for the invite for the IRC channel i will see about putting some time away for that.

I'm afraid in can't concur with you, violence in games is and always will be something that attracts people, i'm not saying gratuitous violence mind you like killing innocents and stuff but forms of violence like fighting imaginary monsters etc, this will never stop being fun, also people like to be afraid that is why simple games like Slender Man has so success. For example Frictional Games has become a successful game company because of their horror games, if people would all be shifting for non violent videogames (and violence is relative even Super Mario and Sonic have violence in them) i would be seeing that on the market, right now games Like Crysis 3, BF3 and other COD like games are having immense success, i'm not seeing violence be frown upon anywhere else but here, also violence is not only a easy way to attract people, violence is a tool in the game developer arsenal (pun intended ;D ) but if badly used it can arm the game more then help, violence should be used to support the game story and not as a means in it self. Btw violence is a part of life and it will always be present.

I'm sure you are talking about physical violence like killing or beating, but theres also psychological and verbal violence and the border of what is considered violence of what is not considered violence is very fussy and very dependent of the viewer point of view of his or her culture and morals.

p.s - Sorry for my grammar English is not my mother tongue

Last edited by Argoon (2013-08-27 18:41:34)

Yes, the haunted h ouse thing , I realize that ( that people like to be scared, etc.).

But you must admit, that non violent games are on the rise, I've seen it, and I've seen people on other forums ASK for it, but if you haven't seen that, then I can see that you might think otherwise.

I am a vegan, so its SUPER EASY for  me to want to avoid violence , and  vegan/vegetarianism IS on the rise as well, and that will eventually lend itself to non-violence in games too, and as I noted, its PROOF of this already starting, given you already see blizzards removing at least some aspects of killing animals in starter zones.

Killing fictional 'monsters' as you say prob. doesn't do much harm per se (  although plenty of studies may prove otherwise , if one BING"s for information on that, and make sure one is being 'objective' in that search)

Many people see games like CXOD and Crysis3 as totally b rainDEAD games, as all they do is GLORIFY violence, and I might even go as far to say, that it makes the militiaries jOB so much easier if young people , etc.,  think its 'kewl' to kill. Super Mario has very little violence in it, and I have super Mario for wii and off hand I don't recall much violence there at all, so I think that's a HUGE stretch to say that LOL. LInks ?

If violence is the only way you can think of to 'attract' people, then Im not sure you are giving as much thought to design, as you are to 'coding'

I thought this was going to be a 'simple' objective thread, but you are turning it kind of ugly, and you can expect me to fire right back at you in defense of what I see as a changing paradigm, eventually, in publics thinking on violence. Violence is , as it does, and I see no redeeming value to it moving forward as a society.

Opinions on the issue are mixed, but it certainly doesn't hurt to be AWARE of our surroundings and subsequent things we do that can influence others:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/26/tech/gami … index.html

From bottom of article:

"  To be sure, "Bulletstorm" revels in a stream of nonstop profanity and rewards grisly "skill kills" that include impaling opponents on a cactus and chopping them in half. But the worst game in the world?

"I think of it as a teenage shooter game that tries to get attention by being gross, obscene and sexually charged," CNN.com video-game contributor Larry Frum wrote when it was released. "It is funny at first, but after a while, it becomes tired."
"

SOme of those things really make my blood boil ( makes me sick too!), and make me wonder, really?, what is the point in doing such things if not to make profit off of VIOLENCE ? Is that responsible I wonder ? HM.....

Makes me think as a society, all we care about sometimes is egging on the WORST parts of who we are instead of making strides in improving ourselves. 

Make the game you want obviously, that's entirely up to you, but all I did was put forth a opinion based on what I see as 'responsibility' , and some of the comments from that article would suggest we do just that

FOr more objectivity from a scientist, I offer th is:

http://ithp.org/articles/violentvideogames.html

Objectivity matters.   IM all about it. Fair is fair

Argoon I like how you managed to build the ambiance,
I'm curious to follow your work.

Where was I not curtious I wonder ? I was nothing but completely objective in  stating my opinions.

YOu on the other hand are crossing a line, by being ridiculous about 'eating plants' causing harm to them, when in absolute FACT, plants have zero nervous system, and zero brain, vs killing innocent animals who aren't asking for it, in horrible slaughter houses, as if humans have NO choice whatsoever of what to eat. This would DEvolve into a conversation into veganism vs eating meat, but that most certainly is NOT for t his forum, and I would never  do that.

I offered 2 solid links , by a scientist, and you had a problem with that why exactly ?

I offered objective scientific proof about a issues that is  quite important, without passing judgement on anyone, so Im not the one to go after here, it should be the scientist who wrote that article. If you disagree with his findings, attack him, NOT me

Ignore me if you want , though again, I did nothing wrong for that to be necessary, and for you to say so, is a bit odd. All I did was give my opinion on the matter, the current stats on some game companies ( blizzard, afterall they are HUGE, so it mattered a lot to mention them!) who are going less violent, and objective studies done by a credible scientist about this very issue. I think I went out of m yway to offer credible  information on the issue, and let you , and others, decide.

cheers
hs

I will be happy to do that, and I will always be objective as I always am. Just realize, instead of WARninG ME, that if I say something you don't like,,its not me be OFFENSive, its just me saying precisely what's on my mind in a way to help you possibly improve something.

cheers
hs

A update on what i was able to do with this engine, , unfortunately  i will need to wait for the engine to mature further to be able to implement some other stuff i have in mind, so updates will not be so regular for now on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvV-Y5x53qg

Hope you guys like it.