A Rig for Maratis(Free)

THank you for taking the time to add this to the maratis library for those uncomfortable with making their own characters, though to me anyway,and I have to offer this opinion to be honest, it looks a bit out of shape for a human, hips are way too wide and head is really weird. It's the thought that counts.

Also, the OBJ file you included,   and thanks for that for non blender users, is very ROUGH compared to the .blend file, just letting you know

I would therefore like to offer what has bee noted in other forums:

http://www.makehuman.org/

"  You can get the character you need quickly and easily. Change the height, weight, sex or facial features with a slide of a button. It’s all within your control.  "

I"ve yet to use it, but with a feature set like that, who can argue not trying

Cheers
hs

Sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense to me at all. I am a modeler also ( granted, Ive not been doing it for YEARS but Im getting quite comfortable with most things), but how does this ' base mesh' allow me to create my own character from it and how in precise detail as others would also  need this information, does this base 'mesh' allow me to use it as a 'template' for quickly modeling my own mesh ? Do you mean simply as a 'reference' ? If so Im not sure how useful that is, given there are tons of character models on the internet to be used as such things. Until I get more detail from you, I think my assumptions are reasonable. Just mostly trying to verify this for other new modelers/programmers/animators that may come here and be wondering the same things.

Btw, I was aware this rig was the main purpose of this post, and that is  why I replied here. Maybe we have a communication problem going on ? I can think of far worse things to occur, but still I need to verify.

Cheers
hs

Is a very low poly model that has enough vertices to allow you to easily line up key features of the model to an image of your choice without the hassle of moving thousands of vertices.
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I still dont' see how this is a lot easier than just doing it in Makehuman. Makehuman is made for such things isn't it ?

Can you do some video tutorial illustrating what you're saying so the rest of us understand ?

I"ve not gotten, 'yet', to creating characters, and I've not really seen Anyone on these forums do so either, because most of us are alone , not in big teams, so its SLOW progress going from idea , plots and then to models /animations, etc.

I therefore , and I'm 100% sure this applies to most everyone else too,  am barely past the 'idea' phase.

I very much as I know anael and everyone else does, your hard work in creating what you call a base mesh, but Im not convinced yet that using it is in anyway a superior 'method' vs say using MakeHuman , which is designed precisely for this and does a lot more essentially and on top of that is crossplatform to the big 3 OS's.

Due to your work on this I hope someone can make use of it of course , but as noted Im unsure how this method can reduce my workload versus MakeHuman, but I'm certainly willing to check things out.

I'm happy to try both and let you know

Btw, IF you have enough Blender experience, I could use some tiny assistance.

I can't import my MESH into maratis, using Maratis exporter because all I get is a TINY DOT afterwards, and I have no idea why.

I am having trouble getting cursor centered over grid and object itself , and Ive tried everything but blender refuses to center it. THis is what really bothers me about b lender, is that this kind of thing just never happens to me anywhere else, yet in blender far too often, but atm all we have is blender for export because Ive tried exporting and importing in maratis editor with 'import 3d model' from a support format, but that doesn't always work so back to blender we must go. Not good, but atm at least only necessary for a brief moment for exporting. whew. Anyway the 'dot' in blender respresenting object ? I guess, refuses to line up OVER the object itself, and Ive tried S cript-c and Shift S and nothing has worked so far.

My object is on the left side, and the cursor on the right side and nothing is working to get them to JOIN  in the center, and good luck trying to find out how given things change so quickly from release to release.

I just tested my mesh in sculptris > export OBJ, import OBJ in blender and my object is still shifted far to the left of cursor, and nothing I can think of to do fixes it. Maybe using blender was a huge mistake as it should not be this difficult to fix something like this SIGH. HOnestly Im not happy with EITHER community, blender or wings, so both are mostly off my radar anymore. Any object I try to open ( obj) does the same thing, as the cursor is in the very corner of object, instead of centered over it , as default cube does.  Why me...

irc.freenode.net > #maratis, and I'm known as neighborlee there. Have to go downstairs for a bit, but I'll check  back in hour or so and maybe you can lead me to a fix for this mess Im in with blender cursor issues. The hassle is almost not worth it I have  BING'ed till blue in the face, and nadda.

Cheers
hs

OKay , thanks for reminder about the ORIGIN ))

Being under transform, Im not sure makes sense as to where one would typically find something like this , but its definitely better than it was, but still not centered over my terrain object. I"ve tried 'median' etc., but no value alters cursor position at all, its all the same, which is very odd. I tried center of mass as well, but the entire mesh disappeared from view and I could not find it zooming, so I went back to ORIGIN.

I guess this is the best I can hope for so ORIGIN it is )

I may not have been as clear as I could have been, but yup I was trying Shift-S often, but nothing was working, yet ORIGIN got  me closer than anything had, but   while cursor itself was indeed at 000, the mesh ( terrain in this case) was definitely OFF center noticeably. No clue what's going on.

So the issue seems to be that the mesh itself somehow got confused and isn't communicating with its proper center as relates to my terrain mesh, and about that I've no idea why not. I  thought I used to know how to fix it, but I can't recall given Ive not really used blender much over the last several months. One last thing, when I click  origin > center of mass, the terrain mesh completely disappears altogether. Weird ?

Good luck trying to work on this issue, I'll be back tomorrow as its late here.

Cheers
hs

Just a note about MakeHuman.

If you happen to be using Ubuntu 13.04, then the latest version of MakeHuman will NOT run (well, the 32-bit version won't run - I have no experience of the 64-bit version). This is a problem which, we're told, will be solved in the next major release of MakeHuman.

However, things aren't as bad as they seem, because the Windows version of MakeHuman DOES run in Ubuntu 13.04 under Wine. That surprised me a little, so I've been trying to break it - I haven't succeeded.

Last edited by Poodle (2013-09-06 09:02:51)

What about the freely available ( atm anyway) dazstudio ?

Never used it, no idea 'how good' it really is vs the others, just saying its there..

http://www.daz3d.com/products/ < ok ya, its free..the 'worthy' part I have no idea, atm. Not ready to go down the road
of making chARACTERS just yet. Too busy on my terrain/texturing it

Ya dunno, I've never played much with any of them. I'll try daz though and see how it goes but ya I appreciate your input. Unless poser is nothing short of amazing compared to open source alternative MakeHuman, I'd have little temptation to get it, so w'ell h ave to see )