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All completely disgusting, imho. I wasn't raised all that different from you, so I can't imagine someone reading this, would think such wording, is just,,,ok. Its not , its unnecessary to 'convey meaning' and so many other more non violent rhetoric could have been used.

THis 'user'  has had a constant propensity to post negative rhetoric like this, is there a reason to allow it to continue ? I know he is a bit ,,,,troubled and admitted as much and no judgement here from me whatsoever, but should we allow this kind of horrendous insulting wording to exist here ?  Are such things necessary, to have a forum about game development ? GOd,I hope not. It distracts from a otherwise perfectly good engine.

The reason I say this, is , he has  been the ONLY one, doing this kind of thing. Why I s it allowed ? I get free speech and  all, but would we allow violence in other forms here, just for 'free speech' ? I hope not

I must rethink my willingness to use maratis, given this is here.

If you don't stand for something good in life, then society will just continue to evolve in the reverse direction, and Im not wanting to be part of something like that. I was raised differently.

ie: my point is not to be mean about this, to the contrary, Im a warm caring person, who cares a lot 'even' about animals enough to be a vegan, so to indicate that just because we 'can' do something, doesn't mean we should. Should children, and we know kids these days from 'early' ages learn to do many things,  be subjected to this kind of unnecessary dialogue ?

Kids deserve better, we all do , right ?

later
vd

THis  forum seems relevant for this question.

Im also unable to compile maratis with VS 2013 ( im not about to use anything older, I need this V. for windows 8 phone, blah).

I tried scons, but scons can't find 'cl.exe', even though I know its there and I have a path added for it:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 12.0\VC\bin < 'cl' is there , I'm positive.

thx anyone ;0-

Not using VS at all, just scons. Im giving up temporarily on scons, so maybe VS will be able to find the header files ?? we'll see, I'll update this thread if I can get it working.

It always used to work, so I guess something changed between windows 8 and 8.1, seems I heard Microsoft removed some headers, no idea why.

I already copied one, but I'd rather have PATH find it, but atm oddly enough its not.

I thought the NDK wasn't a very good option to use according to android ?
I know I read that somewhere.

From androids page :

" Before downloading the NDK, you should understand that the NDK will not benefit most apps. As a developer, you need to balance its benefits against its drawbacks. Notably, using native code on Android generally does not result in a noticable performance improvement, but it always increases your app complexity. In general, you should only use the NDK if it is essential to your app—never because you simply prefer to program in C/C++. "

Im all for getting a android port going, but I can't help but wonder is that relevant here at all is this just a option to avoid rewriting in java? ARe there converters ?

thx
vd

Well, Anael can speak for himself, but while there are other users here adding a few things here and there to engine, it's a tiny bit quiet on that front admittedly, though I guess taken as a whole nistur is prob. adding the most with his lua script for editor addon and multiple plugins addon, you can find his maratis fork on github.

TO be fair, Anael has been doing some things, which can be verified by going to the SVN page for maratis, on google code.

That's all I can think of atm.

There are things the engine still doesn't have compared to others, but while competitors, like say ogre3d or such have a massive engine with terrain and lots of enhancements, what they don't really have is a 'editor' with decent docs or 'lua' scritping.

That is where maraits gets its name and what attracted me to it, ymmv.

thx
vd

Im a bit worried about androids fractured hardware base, so in part that was why I was going for the more stable ( in that regard ) iOs base.

BUt I do have a 10" tablet I guess that would be fun getting maratis to run on..its nothing amazing b ut it might be fun tinkering.

I thought about OUYA, but I dont' think the hardware specs are particularly impressive, and I h ear ? the controller is kinda cheap ? <what do others here think ?>

Anyway , the problem I may not have explained well enough, is ( imho anyway) the sad truth of expensive apple hardware , and that to publish, while my current imac 17" meets the requirements np at all, I don't when it comes to age of the imac itself, which is 2006, and minimum ( given mountain lion is bare minimum to get on Ios app store) is mid 2007, so im forced to buy hardware, which is really I think a sad deal apple  has setup, and where its SO much easier to get going with android, unless Ive missed something..I got a Visual Land Prestige  10" tablet for $73 +$10 shipping, and I'm SO pleased with it, though  I had to  'hack' in google app market LOL..easy enough, but major hassle. ) So my point is,  with the huge market android has though Im unsure of all else, its dreadfully easy to get going and published ( and 3/4's cheaper albeit than apple), even though im a bit more sold on the iOS market and their innovation never ceases to amaze me..but anyway just ideas Im throwing out there to see what others think.

cu
vd

If cost is your concern, you can't beat the iPhone 3gs.

It's the oldest ( that I know of), but on ebay you can find them for under $50 usually.

YOu can check statistics if you wish, and I have no idea 'how many users' still have them and use them actively for gaming, but its certainly the best bargain going atm.

To get a newer phone, you either need a lot of money or be willing to accept a 2 year contract and pay money for the phone every month plus a VERY expensive contract with your choice of provider. That's just not acceptable for a lot of us on limited incomes.

Just remember,,TO 'submit' your finished game/app on the apple app store, you need to register (free) as a developer, then to post the item there, you need to pay $99 upfront , but on top of that, apple requires you to have all this as a minimum:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5444

So, make sure you meet all of that. If you have a mac already I suspect you already do, but those that don't are in for a big surprise if they are trying to do dev work, without spending a lot of money in the process on expensive hardware. Apples hardware is very innovative and I like it for that reason, but I don't like the up front money required to    to dev work .

One thing to note, and I know this the 'hard' way unfortunately ( apple  can be a pitb but they make kewl things wink ) :

My apple ID is also active, but little did I know when I signed up for it, is that to get apps on the app store (  other than paying $99/year vs androids $35?, you must have a mac capable of submitting them and working 'with xcode 5'..

2gb ram
mountain lion at least

and your computer must match these requirements, or its a no go, so be cautious if you're getting a new system, etc.:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5444

Happy coding wink

OH and btw, even if you are starting out, its VERY easy to get going, trust me I know from experience.

It's 'better' for time and effort with a 'dev' on your side, but you can easily do it on your own if time isn't a huge deal.

There are awesome tutorials on youtube for example, but all of them require at 'least' xcode 4.x and most xcode 5 I think.

have fun

I was trying to help him understand what occurred, and you come here attacking me too ?

What about 'not nice' , do you not understand. You seem to enjoy' making fun of others', yet you call ME out for causing trouble ? Really zester, what part of hypocrisy is lost on you ?

I tried to spin this thread DOWN, by apologizing, and 'guessing' why things spiraled out of control, then you zester come here with your mental aerobics, and cause MORE trouble.

Really zester , was there no other post you could have made, and not continue the downward spiral ? I had stopped 'the bleeding' if that's an analogy you prefer, and you just opened up a huge chasm.

YOu owe me another apology for this :

"  YOu attempt to put me down, say I 'overreacted somehow and should learn from others 'posts', yet you do this :

"  (Now, THIS is rude, and it's the first actual rude thing I've wrote in the entire forum. But you definitely asked for it lol.)   "
"

Can't you just apologize to someone, without asking something in return, in this case, by specifically saying you are going to ENJOY the following put down, and then lol about it.

You said I was the angry one, well I do sometimes get angry at willful insults, but it seems you enjoy insulting people.

I wonder who here needs therapy, the one  who enjoys insults, or the one who   feels responsible for showing people the error/arrogance/hatefulness of their ways, to try to stop them from bullying others. YOu do know, the current trend in bullying is causing suicides, right ? Just sayin...sometimes there are horrible consequences for the actions, that we think at the time, mean nothing to us, but are devastating to someone else ( not me).

" Well, whatever, maybe we both don't understand the nature of our posts.
I think my post was not angry and that your was angry.
You think that my post was angry and that your was not angry.
lol
Well at least we know that now. "

That's not a apology, its you just trying to get out of the mess you put yourself in, when you said I had it coming and that THIS was going to be rude.

Maybe its a 'language barrier', I honestly don't know. I know rude when I see it,,OR maybe you're not presenting yourself favorably given English isn't your first language.

That could very very easily be the case.

So lets' start ALL over.

Let's not ever, be rude again, to anyone asking for help, not in any way shape or form, shall we be rude, condescending or   show angst over them asking coding questions, and if you can't help yourself, instead of doing it, just point TD/us/me to a URL where we can understand the finer points of what you are trying to say

Problem solved ya us! )

Sorry for any misunderstands 255, can we now start over ? )

Question is, is one chooses maratis, how does one get from one animation to another. Engines, such as one you have named here zester and for which you use as you noted, HOrde3d in this case, specificially have code built in for 'blending animations'. I'm not a professional coder, obviously, but from horde3d :

"  ◾Layered animation blending and mixing using masks and additive channels " , which doesn't to me sound like 'faking' it to achieve similar results.

Im curious too, where are you going with this example ,  as atm it just looks like you sharing your new animations That would be awesome on its own of course I never took time to learn makehuman, don't have poser or had time to invest in learning animation techniques , so hints on how to achieve such things are always helpful ;)hah