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What about the freely available ( atm anyway) dazstudio ?

Never used it, no idea 'how good' it really is vs the others, just saying its there..

http://www.daz3d.com/products/ < ok ya, its free..the 'worthy' part I have no idea, atm. Not ready to go down the road
of making chARACTERS just yet. Too busy on my terrain/texturing it

I may not have been as clear as I could have been, but yup I was trying Shift-S often, but nothing was working, yet ORIGIN got  me closer than anything had, but   while cursor itself was indeed at 000, the mesh ( terrain in this case) was definitely OFF center noticeably. No clue what's going on.

So the issue seems to be that the mesh itself somehow got confused and isn't communicating with its proper center as relates to my terrain mesh, and about that I've no idea why not. I  thought I used to know how to fix it, but I can't recall given Ive not really used blender much over the last several months. One last thing, when I click  origin > center of mass, the terrain mesh completely disappears altogether. Weird ?

Good luck trying to work on this issue, I'll be back tomorrow as its late here.

Cheers
hs

Is a very low poly model that has enough vertices to allow you to easily line up key features of the model to an image of your choice without the hassle of moving thousands of vertices.
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I still dont' see how this is a lot easier than just doing it in Makehuman. Makehuman is made for such things isn't it ?

Can you do some video tutorial illustrating what you're saying so the rest of us understand ?

I"ve not gotten, 'yet', to creating characters, and I've not really seen Anyone on these forums do so either, because most of us are alone , not in big teams, so its SLOW progress going from idea , plots and then to models /animations, etc.

I therefore , and I'm 100% sure this applies to most everyone else too,  am barely past the 'idea' phase.

I very much as I know anael and everyone else does, your hard work in creating what you call a base mesh, but Im not convinced yet that using it is in anyway a superior 'method' vs say using MakeHuman , which is designed precisely for this and does a lot more essentially and on top of that is crossplatform to the big 3 OS's.

Due to your work on this I hope someone can make use of it of course , but as noted Im unsure how this method can reduce my workload versus MakeHuman, but I'm certainly willing to check things out.

I'm happy to try both and let you know

Btw, IF you have enough Blender experience, I could use some tiny assistance.

I can't import my MESH into maratis, using Maratis exporter because all I get is a TINY DOT afterwards, and I have no idea why.

I am having trouble getting cursor centered over grid and object itself , and Ive tried everything but blender refuses to center it. THis is what really bothers me about b lender, is that this kind of thing just never happens to me anywhere else, yet in blender far too often, but atm all we have is blender for export because Ive tried exporting and importing in maratis editor with 'import 3d model' from a support format, but that doesn't always work so back to blender we must go. Not good, but atm at least only necessary for a brief moment for exporting. whew. Anyway the 'dot' in blender respresenting object ? I guess, refuses to line up OVER the object itself, and Ive tried S cript-c and Shift S and nothing has worked so far.

My object is on the left side, and the cursor on the right side and nothing is working to get them to JOIN  in the center, and good luck trying to find out how given things change so quickly from release to release.

I just tested my mesh in sculptris > export OBJ, import OBJ in blender and my object is still shifted far to the left of cursor, and nothing I can think of to do fixes it. Maybe using blender was a huge mistake as it should not be this difficult to fix something like this SIGH. HOnestly Im not happy with EITHER community, blender or wings, so both are mostly off my radar anymore. Any object I try to open ( obj) does the same thing, as the cursor is in the very corner of object, instead of centered over it , as default cube does.  Why me...

irc.freenode.net > #maratis, and I'm known as neighborlee there. Have to go downstairs for a bit, but I'll check  back in hour or so and maybe you can lead me to a fix for this mess Im in with blender cursor issues. The hassle is almost not worth it I have  BING'ed till blue in the face, and nadda.

Cheers
hs

THank you for taking the time to add this to the maratis library for those uncomfortable with making their own characters, though to me anyway,and I have to offer this opinion to be honest, it looks a bit out of shape for a human, hips are way too wide and head is really weird. It's the thought that counts.

Also, the OBJ file you included,   and thanks for that for non blender users, is very ROUGH compared to the .blend file, just letting you know

I would therefore like to offer what has bee noted in other forums:

http://www.makehuman.org/

"  You can get the character you need quickly and easily. Change the height, weight, sex or facial features with a slide of a button. It’s all within your control.  "

I"ve yet to use it, but with a feature set like that, who can argue not trying

Cheers
hs

NIce offering and always appreciated, but let's not lose sight of the fact with assimp, we can easily import whatever we wish, which does go into the MESH folder.

Just a FYI is all, but as other  websites have such things, it certainly won't hurt here MOre the merrier.

Cheers
hs

OK gotcha

Yes, big projects and being alone is bad combo..dream big , aim reasonable I guess

Sounds good, look fwd to it.

AS a case study, what have you found kewl in maratis that you left behind in other engines..

Like ogre3d as a comparison, often I hear its difficult to integrate other libraries..

cheers
hs

Allso please do not INSULT jesus like that. Its directly insulting to a chrisitian, myself included, to use jesus name like that. You should know better! I should not have to be TELLING you this, you just be old enough and wise enough to realize, you just never do that. If you are just YOUNG and weren't aware of it, then well,,now you do

If you were trying to put 'water' on the fire, then why did you WARN me as you did. I reacted the way I did, as honestly it felt like some physical attack was coming..how else should  take 'warning', given no one in all the years I"ve been on IRC/forums has ever warned me about anything..given me advice,,redirection,, comments and opinions Always.,,but never ever has anyone 'warned' me not to 'do something'.

I still it was a very weird thing to do, and not to apologize is also a bit ODD,. but that's ok..just NEVER do it again, k ?

You have every right to be here, and we all look fwd to seeing your progess,,but don't go warning people. NOt polite, and it could easily be taken as a physical threat!

Having said that,,LETS start allllll over shall we

Hi Im hs, I like what you are doing with maratis and look fwd to seeing your progress, and I hope you seriously consider the non violent links I offered as objective data on the subject matter.

Cheers
hs

Ex cuse me, you are warning me about something I said, that was not meant at all offensively?

If you truly feel offended, just ask, instead of assuming Incorrectly.

You should never 'assume' anything, and then on TOP of that, hurl insults at me, WARNING me to not do something, that I never did. I took personal offense by that, almost as if being warned of some impending violence! I presume that wasn't your intent, but it came OUT that way.  What was your, ahem, intent anyway, with that 'warning' ? Don't you ever do that again or I will moderate if need be. That had nasty understones of violence . I"ve never in all the time Ive been online, had anyone 'warn' me not to do something. I hope that wasn't your intent, would you mind rephrasing that or letting me know 'how' you meant it ?

I said nothing whatsoever, to warrant being 'warned' by you or anyone else here, and I find it very odd you are taking that arrogant tone with someone on these forums, who doesn't deserve it on any level. Who are you to warn me like that ? Having a bad day or something ? Do not take it out on me, or anyone else here, is that understood ?

That was quite rude, and I think you owe me an opology. I"ve never been ' warned' by anyone, nor has anyone ever needed to do that, because Im a decent person, who also happens to moderate parts of this forum, and thought I would innocently 'reply' to your thread as your game looked interesting as something unique being done with Maratis.  I still can't believe you 'warned' me, as if you'd do something TO me or something...really?

I shall make it perfectly clear to you, given you  clearly misunderstood, that nothing I said to you had any overtones of arrogance of hostility. If you took it that way, maybe it was a language barrier kind of thing ( such things happen VER Often anyway so...I bet that's all it was!) ? Misunderstandings 'happen', so lets just take it as that, and move on in peace and civility, and enjoy this wonderful engine

Cheers
hs

Ya, I never use those url things, I just copy/paste.

tada

cheers
hs

Yes of course indeed SHows how busy Ive been lately, little time for maratis editor..as I really did KNOW that ;)heh

I'm going for ALL non violent game content, and Im seeing now, today, where a lot of people on other forums are HAPPY about it, as they are tired of old fashioned violent games. You do as you wish I totally understand, but just be aware that the tide seems to be shifting and you might do well to follow it. Violent games have just been a 'easy' way to  draw people in, but people seem to be a bit tired of it now and want more 'engaging' thoughtful gameplay. You can BING, and see for yourself

NO offense, it's just what I seem to be seeing, and in no way has ANY expectation for how anyone makes their games. IMHO its just a sign of the times, and though other game companies aren't quite 'there yet', its clear that SOME at least are, as seen in the Pandaria expansion by WoW ( blizzard mmo) where they no longer force players to start out killing animals ( start zones). I stopped playing just because of that, so its a nice shift in design for me at least

About time

cu
hs

HM physics detection for mouse over , where did you read this information ?

I can't imagine why you would need that in a menu, but Im happy to read alllllllll about it LOL!!!!!

But anael, is he right abourt MObject3d, as in its 'similar' to splitting up a mesh for perforfmance, and if so , what is the difference between the two ?? MObject3d sounds Much easier to do and doesn't require blender to do it.

IM surprised if so, you never mentioned this option.

thx
hs