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IM not sure what you are asking HM,,,you play the animation( to see it in action inside maratis that is ) with the icon in maratis editor called 'pacman',

On L3TD:

I had to look up L3tD to see what they can do, as I haven't noticed them (And I have used a LOT of 3D software. Ever heard of Bryce?) haha. And to tell the truth, L3TD wasn't really impressive at all compared to what I am sure is possible in not only Blender but ANY 3D software that can make terrain and add multiple textures to it.
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Yes I've heard of Bryce, I h ave it, and it a major PITB to use; NO thanks ---:)
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On "Splatting" :

I never heard that term used, BUT I LIKE IT!  You can splat in most 3d programs. Blender can splat as well. To get it into Maratis with the same look as in Blender or any other 3d program that can handle multiple textures, you would have to BAKE the textures into the mesh. I have successfully imported a house modeled in Sketchup, baked in Blender, and imported to a Maratis MESH. I also go the shadows I baked into the mesh. Light Mapping, as some call it is the best way to enhance the visuals in a Maratis game to give it that ''Game polish." (I actually found out that the SPONZA level actually uses a Sketchup 3D warehouse model with baked light maps)  . Btw. L3td is a app designedly only for terrain and can handle far larger terrains than say blender or such app would be capable of, and l3dt does all the texturing as well. I'ts not free though free version can handle I think 2048x2048 which is fairly large anyway, then you would bring said terrain into a 3d app and apply the heightmap.  All standard in most 3d apps as well, and the if its large enough you must SPLIT the mesh so maratis can handle it perfomantly with objects attached afterwards . IT also allows random terrain which 3d apps certainly don't have, so its not just about 'creating' a terrain in a 3d app and texturing it.
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Actually you don't need to bake anything in blender, you just use texture splatting mode, after LOADING your textures into texture slots, and then assign them in the texture paint slots on left side of blender UI  and grab 'new' texture. You need to of course unwrap and assign the special textures that work as alpha maps inbetween each texture ( off top of my head) and then faik that's about it. I honestly can't stand light maps, as to me they are just cheap ( which does not appeal to me honestly) 'lighting', albeit atm,,its all we got, since your teapot example ? reference for dynamic lighting was incorrect . Having said all that,  I m not using blender as I already said, so only skethcup or art of illusion or such is doable  here but I do have some access ( friend) to 3dsmax 2011.

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On High Quality:

I am sure that Maratis cannot handle a terrain that is 800,000 polygons (I tried. It crashed.) haha, but who does that in games anyhow?
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I never said use a 800,000 Polygon terrain, that was you and you own it :)lol

Also, they use NORMAL MAPS to simulate geometry. I need to do a test with that in Maratis. But even without normal maps, HEY, I can slap some texture on a plane (and believe me, that PS3 game's terrain was not 800,000 polygons. haha.
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Normal maps only go SO far in emulating geometry, its fakey looking and PLastic imho ( often is), and geometry 'shaders' which many engines have, would be the next evolution, but certainly not necessary .

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P.S. Have you heard of Sculptris? Sculptris allows you to paint multiple textures onto a 3d model like Zbrush. You can also use it for sculpting.
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Yes I have  sculptris which later I may use to do just that, but I"ve not gotten that far as Im detailing my meshs right now, as in deciding what I want to use ( shape etc.) and what I want it to look like.

But again as noted earlier, Sculptris isn't for working on large/huge terrains, and neither is blender or most other '3d modelers', which is where l3dt or such apps come into play.They are the only true terrain editors OR ones like them that come with unity, UDK etc., because they are the only ones that allow for editing very large terrains, and besides, I never liked the idea of   'making' a terrain in one of those ( the right way), and then loading it into a '3d modeling app' using DISPLACEMENT MAP, because I just don't feel its very precise and causes distortion to your original terrain/image.

Cheers
hs

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If you want to be taken 'seriously', why don't you avoid words like 'stupid' and possibly consider using words like ' unnecessary' or redundant. Does that make any sense to you ?

This isn't a contest to see who is the smartest coder, it's about having a engine worthy of all users, not just elite longtime c++ coders. I"ve seen engines that 'aspire' to just that, like irrrpg.sourceforge.net to name one at least. I know, I use it also , for some things. So i'ts not like no one has tried.

Also the unreal engine while hardly free or affordable ? (  that's arguable) has a new iOS engine that from what I"ve heard practically codes itself ( ok , humor matters!) which is another instance of a well written engine to help those with GREAT ideas, but not enough coder skills or the money to hire one.

cheers
hs/lee

Cheers
lee

HI TD,

NO offense meant at all, but your terrain example is very very basic ( not texture splatting , which can be brought in ? I think but its been far too long and I don't how its done. Zester I think did something similar but only in blender, so I have no idea how it would be done in any other app given blender is the only one for which there is a official exporter, and 3dsmax kinda is on teh shelf atm given the person who started it is certainly busy with other things no fault of h is own.He was working on moving entirely to maxscript, but I have  no idea of his progress as in whats left or how hard doing all of it is.

FOR a large terrain, and for the engine to 'cull' parts of it ( occlusion culling works yet, or is planned ? dont' recall====) the engine 'mesh' must be split up into pieces.  You can get away with small meshs I guess and do aLOT of scene loading/portaling, but then I don't know that sorta ruins the immersion process. Dunno, experimentation would need to be done I guess )))

NOthing wrong with experimenting, and I guess once multiple plugins are doable, then maybe even a  LOD GMM'd  &/or streaming terrain plugin would make this engine far more enticing, as if it isn't already )

cheers
hs

I"Ts not going to help to socialize in blender, not to any great extent, of that Im sure. I've seen people try to socialize on blender forums only to be met with harsh treatment, and those people know who they are. Sad too, given blender's great feature set FOR FREE, but being treated horribly BY PROMINENT m embers of the community, does NOT make me want to use the software, which is why today, I avoid blender like the plague it is. I am GLAD people use it who can't afford anything else, but I guarantee you, the day I have enough money, Ill be buying 3ds max and be glad of IT It's a true shame I can't use blender b ecause of the harsh community members and how I was treated, but those are facts and how life goes sometimes.  I learned from that harsh treatment, and its a real shame as I wanted to enjoy using it, but thats no longer possible.

You can't  make terrain exported from sketchup WORK in maraits, where did you get that idea from ?
EDIT EDIT EDIT: What I meant by that was that there is no 'terrain' system from skethcup, but of course you can 'make' your own , or even download a piece of google earth, which takes a fair bit of editing etc., and then load into maratis into pieces, but I think that's only with the blender exporter ? ( anael would have to comment on that, as I dont recall)

Yes, you can download terrain from google earth,  bring it into skethcup and all, but getting it ready for maratis is NO easy task, trust me Ive done it. I"ts not a simple task. For those wanting to make terrain themselves maybe there is some skethcup tutorial ( skethcup is my ONLY solace now given blender is totally OFF the table, and thank goodness for that at least I guess, though skethcup makes doing SOME things difficult, because it asks for MONEY for some plugins, which is really shameful, but thats capitalism for you right ?   - ) Maybe I should look for a terrain creation TUTorial in skethcup, but even if I find one, making the terrain performant in maratis is another hassle, given you need to find a way to chop up the mesh before export so that it gets good performance INSIDE maratis, otherwise it won't, unless its as V ERY small terrain.  Unity users have that one solid advantage ? of being able to use HUGE terrain so they wish to, whereas Im not atm sure, maraits could do that wiht its current rendering abilities. I've no doubt maratis was n ever dESIGNED for that, just saying alot of people like huge terrain for the desings it allows them to do, and being able to make subsequent money from said endeavor

ON the teapot, are you sure that's a 'dynanic light' possiblity ? I don't recall reading that anywhere, so where did you get that from, maybe I missed it,,,That would c ertainly add a 'feature' to this engine worthy of NOTE. I doubt its what you think though, because anael has not added 'dynamic lighting' to the feature LIST.

cheers
hs

THe url you quoted has no docs, just api structure of some kind, which 'atm' anyway mostly as a non programmerof c++, it makes little sense, but the point is, its not in human readable terms to someone that  needs guidance as relates to 'what' a certain api function actually does and how to use it.

I don't , yet, know enough about maratis api to edit anything. I'ts hard to do something when docs are lacking so much

I am here because I think maratis has promise, but lacking docs make it terribly hard to do much unless you are a polished experienced c++ programmer, given lua docs are mostly nonexistant as well.

Cheers
hs

No Im afraid the red just means there isn't any at the moment.

Doxygen could be used , but that would require ( FAIK) someone to go through api and create the doxygen structure before running it, to generate the docs.

Cheers
hs

I can't test this, and honestly I have no idea as Im more an artist too ( learning as I go with coding), but what if you put a space between , and 3 ?

Were you getting any errors with it uncommented ? I thought I'd weight in on this, having no idea how long com3d might be offline, etc.

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Aren't you used to nice people who don't mind ( and hope for it !) you asking questions, and indeed expect it , given' this is a
programming forum ? Where have you been that you think otherwise, Im actually kinda curious

welcome ,and keep them coming!

Cheers
hs

The lib Nistur mentioned seems to clearly have the most features, though as noted a tad old. Knet seems to only support win and lin so who knows there ( knet website only shows support for ubuntu and windows though android as noted by lumooja).

I think given the features grapple has, that it would logically be the  way to go ?

cheers
gjhs

One other thing that would be very helpful. If a 'current' DIR structure isn't implemented in editor, how about just 'load project' where it would default to a 'project' DIR which would increase effificency, which would be better than nothing for now, and have a prefs setting that would allow use to SET that directory of so desired.